The Running Realtor: Real Estate Continuing Education.....

A blend of ramblings about Real Estate & Running around New Haven County and the Connecticut Shoreline

Real Estate Continuing Education.....

For Tee'd Off Tuesday this week I will stay on topic and discuss Real Estate.  May is license renewal month in Connecticut and this year since I have been busy preparing to run the Rock-n-Roll Marathon with the Team in Training I have not yet completed my required continuing education classes.

In past years I have always gone the traditional route and sat through each class but running 5 days a week consumes many hours so I decided to try the on-line course that allows me to fit the hours into my schedule.  The first two courses went pretty smooth, Current Issues in Real Estate I and II are required by the state and seemed bug free.  Next I have two electives so for my first course I picked Red Flags Property Inspection Guide.  That course did bring on a little frustration.

The courses are all laid out the same,  a reading assignment followed by a 10 question quiz that requires a score of 100 to pass before moving on to more reading and testing. Getting all questions right is not as easy as you would expect.  Maybe I think differently from the rest of the world but I always seem to stumble into disagreements.

One quiz where my performance was less the 100% was the result of this question. A 50/50 shot with a True or False answer which I thought I confidently knew.  Well the WISE ASS that developed the test decided to play games with spelling and that set my attitude in a negative direction for the rest of the course.

During a reading assignment I was struck with another bout of confusion.  Seems I am being told that the  distance from the top of a slope with a drop greater than 1 vertical unit in 3 horizontal units to the face of a footing can not exceed 40 feet.  Fortunately the illustrator was bright enough to know the author was confused and should have said the distance need not exceed 40 feet.

So...  As you can see Real Estate Continuing Education is one more of the behind the scenes annoyances that takes our time and money.

This course contained many more questionable errors.  One statement on the test read "Tree branches extending over a roof will cause transpiration." I would say an overhanging branch is an indicator that the roots may extend under the foundation and remove moisture but as stated the question is flawed.   

Here is another example of a test question I thought was poorly defined.  True or False - All retaining walls last at least 10 years.  Anyone with a little design knowledge or construction background might consider that statement false. An incorrectly installed wall could easily collapse after a hard rain.  Poorly designed drainage might allow water to build up behind the wall causing freeze damage during the winter and failure in the spring.  The wizard who decides right and wrong concerning test answers wasn't smart enough to ask a question that could clearly be True or False.

Yes.... Today I'm Tee'd Off because I have to waste my time and money dealing with all the bureaucratic bull that goes with being a Realtor! 

I did learn enough to offer a RED FLAG...... Warning.... Beware of the Real Estate Continuing Education Class entitled Red Flags Property Inspection Guide Version 3.0 because it contains plenty of non-sense. 

Comment balloon 29 commentsNo Longer Active • May 06 2008 04:57AM

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Oh, Dan..I feel your pain. I've tried online education and it's frustrating because there's no one to interact with...yell at the computer and you get NO feedback! I'm an interactive kind of person and I like being able to ask a question face to face if there's a problem..the computer's not so touchy feely. I hope you get everything turned in on time!
Posted by Linda Scanlan (A Fan of AR) over 10 years ago
Just the type of stuff I loathed about schooling, whether it relevant to the cause at hand or not. 
Posted by Jason Sardi, Your Agent for Life (Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina) over 10 years ago
 Dan - "Maybe I think differently from the rest of the world but I always seem to stumble into disagreements." That is the biggest understatement I have ever heard! : -)
Posted by Sandra Cummings, Real Estate Agent, Guilford Connecticut (William Raveis Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Dan I must say that you were pretty dam observant during the testing. I would have fell asleep before I realized any of the questions were not completely correct :)
Posted by Bill Gassett, Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate (RE/MAX Executive Realty) over 10 years ago
Dan -- I know how you feel about on-line education...          
Posted by Colleen Kulikowski, Creative Real Estate Solutions... (The Griffin Team @ Keller Williams Realty) over 10 years ago
Dan--How frustrating!! I have only taken one continuing ed online class for our MLS system. I opted for the traditional through the MN Board...lunch was included. :)
Posted by Teri Eckholm, REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro (Boardman Realty) over 10 years ago
Dan, Wow!  I'm sorry to say, but our CE doesn't come as near to what you have to do. 
Posted by Marc Grossman, GRI, Greater Orlando Real Estate Broker (Marc It Sold!) over 10 years ago

Linda... LOL.... I'm not really the touchy feely type so the on-line course isn't that bad.....

Jason... I recall getting a few questions wrong when I took the final in my Real Estate Course. Since I was curious where I came up short I reviewed the answer sheet and sure enough it was WRONG.  Brought it to the attention of the instructor who of course sided with the answer sheet as being the bible...  I'm not that easy to satisfy so she suggested I take it up with the school.... After several days the finally conceded I was correct.

Sandra... But my disagreements are always because the outer party is confused......

Bill... We all retain different details.... When I'm on tour and see a bunch of homes I'll have no recollection about the color scheme.

Colleen.... It's not only on-line but text book instructors offer their own brand of closed minds...

Teri... Wow... We don't get lunch!  The courses actually work out cheaper if we take them in person but timing didn't fit my schedule this year.

Marc... We are required to continually learn a bunch of bull...  Having to go thru the same non-sense every two years is a bit much.

 

Posted by No Longer Active (Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Dan, I hear you my friend. I can't stand online education.
Posted by Mana Tulberg, Real Estate Agent - Camarillo CA (805 County Real Estate) over 10 years ago
My favorite explanation for the b.s. questions we get here is that we are to select "the most correct" answer of several that are technically correct. Which is subjective, naturally. UGH!!!
Posted by Jennifer Monroe, Real Estate REALTOR®/Broker in Beautiful Charlotte (Savvy + Company Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Dan! That's a frustrating day of education! Hopefully it gets better from here....
Posted by Lindsey Hasford, Bringing you home... (Edina Realty) over 10 years ago

Mana... The on-line course work isn't that bad if it was right.... The pisser for me is paying $35 knowing they exert no effort beyond the minimal development of the course and it isn't even giving correct information.

Jennifer... I have heard that explanation and my response is generally that's Bullshit.... Never did like abbreveations either!  :-)

Lindsey... I only have one more class but I will delay that a week or so.  How's your training going?  Getting to be prime time for a 5k!

Posted by No Longer Active (Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Dan, Could they be getting harder or you getting older? Don't you have a birthday around the corner, like tomorrow?
Posted by Mana Tulberg, Real Estate Agent - Camarillo CA (805 County Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Dan--Is Mana right...your birthday tomorrow???
Posted by Teri Eckholm, REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro (Boardman Realty) over 10 years ago
Mana and Teri - that would be correct - Dano has a big birthday tomorrow!
Posted by Sandra Cummings, Real Estate Agent, Guilford Connecticut (William Raveis Real Estate) over 10 years ago

Mana...  No! No! and Yes! 

Teri... Yes... another day another decade....

Posted by No Longer Active (Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Sandra.. You slipped in on top...  Don't you have a rice cake to bake?
Posted by No Longer Active (Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Rice cake?  What's a rice cake?
Posted by Sandra Cummings, Real Estate Agent, Guilford Connecticut (William Raveis Real Estate) over 10 years ago

Sandra, Bake him a German chocolate cake and you have my permission to add your own ingredients (depending on how Dano has been behaving) LOL.

Posted by Mana Tulberg, Real Estate Agent - Camarillo CA (805 County Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Well, Dan the man, I'm at that point too. I also have to have my fingerprints taken to the tune of a 40 mile drive and $44.00. Now you would think we would have some type of tenure with the number of years that I haven't broken the law but hey, as long as they don't ruin my manicure I guess it's okay. I am officially NOT looking forward to doing this. I guess I'm tee'd off too! Later in the rain~Deb
Posted by Deb Brooks (Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas) over 10 years ago
PS. You can't fix stupid.
Posted by Deb Brooks (Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas) over 10 years ago

Mana... You know I'm always good..... Don't start pickin' on me or I'll have to turn into a Meanie!

Deb... Now that you mention fingerprinting I do have a vague recollection of that being a requirement.  I thought my prints were never put on file so if I wanted to start a life of crime I'd be undetectable... Guess I'll stick to selling homes and staying legit...  -  Can't fix stupid but I do have fun making a wise ass feel foolish. 

Posted by No Longer Active (Real Estate) over 10 years ago
Dan I have to give you a lot of credit for being able to sit through a course online.  Me I would have been distracted all over the place and lucky if I could have gotten half the questions right.
Posted by George Souto, Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert (George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages) over 10 years ago
I may have to look into an online course or two myself
Posted by Bart Whitmore, Real Estate Agent (Keller Williams- Louisville) over 10 years ago
You better not be tee-d off today... It's your Birthday my friend.  Hope it is a real good one!  Btw- I would have died if they had tricked me with that spelling question!  I'm sure its going to effect your real estate ability.
Posted by Judy Greenberg, Coldwell Banker - Buffalo Grove - Long Grove Homes (Coldwell Banker Long Grove) over 10 years ago

George.... I do have an abundence of self-discipline so getting the time in for the course is not that tough.

Bart...  The on-line classes are convenient and wind up saving me a few hours instead of going to a traditional classroom.

Judy...  I always think less of a course that needs to revert to trick questions.   Tells me the instructor/developer of the material was not bright enough to ask anything intelligent...

Posted by No Longer Active (Real Estate) over 10 years ago
how frustrating - personally I try not to know these things.... buyers hire inspectors because the inspector is the expert on that not me.... whew - thinking I will keep that attitude for a while
Posted by Thesa Chambers, Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon (Fred Real Estate Group) over 10 years ago

I must commend you for challenging yourself at renewal time!!  I usually go the easy route to get it done with and so I don't get false information and have the ability to spot it with my BS meter.  Seems like everyone can get approval from the RED to have a course.

UGH!

Posted by Renée Donohue~Home Photography, Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer (Savvy Home Pix) over 10 years ago

Hi Dan - I've been scolling through your Tee'd off Tuesdays series ....hope your tee'd off for only a 5 minute window ( otherwise you may develop an earlobe crease LOL ).

I prefer TEE TIMES on Tuesdays LOL - Golf is a great way to channel energies ( although it can also get one tee'd off until you understand it's purpose...to keep one humble :)

Great series!

Sincerely,

Grace

Posted by Jeff&Grace Safrin, SpousesSellingHousesTM (F.C.Tucker 1st Team Real Estate) over 10 years ago

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